@tyme   thats the  trouble with slow fingers and computors. while you where sending your kite to me i was sending another one to you looking for my lost luggage, so at least i know its lost. no big deal, the only problem was i burnt my muffins being so absorbed in the search, and theres already enough space junk up there with out me adding to it. i did wonder why the letters i see a short.. theres a lesson here for me. keep it short. hope you have a top day. tonys