thankyou to the very kind people that replied and took the time to offer advice. the replies came to my email box and i sent my warmest appreciation back using a return and send arrow. i guess that means they went as emails, but ive no idea where they went. i was so grateful to get something from some one, i only hope they got them. i looked here and couldnt see any thing and i dont want anyone to think i dont reply. i cant seem to find where you can see people talking in a group as it is happening but one day ill find it. very best wishes to every one