Lousy systems.

[Sophia1]

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@Last-Lament wrote:

Thank you @Former-Member and @Sophia1 for seeing me, and for your support, it's really appreciated.

I'm afraid that my situation is so complex - it just got even more complicated and emotionally painful today - and has been ongoing for so long, and too many aspects of my experiences are so triggering for others that to attempt to find help is a lost cause. I know there are others in similarish positions to mine, I'm not saying I'm in any way special or something like that, just the pain runs so deep and is so intricately interwoven into all of life that there's only one potential solution to it. 

Whoever you are, be the best you can be for your own self, wherever you are, whatever you choose to do. 

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Hello @Last-Lament 

Please accept my thank you for noticing me.

I am thinking that you might possibly struggle with accepting caring things said to you or words that describe all of the good that you have.

This being the case as you have endured so much for so long.

I want to let you know that I can read, hear, the pain and anguish in your post.

I know of the words difficult, different and complex. I too have had life long journeys that cross over at various bends leaving a tangled something. There is pain. There is dark. There are many situations out of my control, out of my choosing. This makes it very hard to trust and reach out.

I find it easier to give than receive.

I do want to say to you, that, I do not assume that you think that you are special. I read that you feel on the outer of, whatever it is, where everyone else seems to be on the inner. 

I am not writing to tell you that I have as much or more hurt than you. 

I am not writing to tell you that I know what you can do for yourself.

I am not writing to tell you what to do or think at all.

I am wanting to let you know that as much as you might not think or feel this way; you are so very courageous in starting this thread.

Writing what you have is another beginning for you. 

You have reached out perhaps not realising this fact.

Perhaps you do realise this and are trying very hard to be heard, listened to, not dismissed.

I have just written about myself.

Will you allow me to write to you again?

I cannot promise when that will be as I cannot visit here as often as others do. I do not use a phone and receive notifications instantly.

I use a desktop computer monitor. (probably incorrect terminology.)

If you do not feel comfortable  engaging in further connection I will understand as this is about you and your feeling safe.

I have heard you and not dismissed your words.

Sophia

[Sophia1]

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@Anon4 wrote:

I got triggered and took myself to the ER late last night. I wasn't well enough to do nothing, but realistically, I wasn't unwell enough to be at the ER either.

There are zero after hours services for people in that position. I'm very happy for anyone who gains benefit from the 24-hr helplines on offer, but I've found the ones I'm actually eligible to phone to be robotic. Which makes things worse. Even people in mental health distress don't need The Script when they dare verbalise any type of distress, or scripted and therefore false empathy.

So I found myself in fluorescent hell instead, which was marginally better.

I'm angry, hungry and dysfunctional. But hey, I got medication from the most anxiety-provoking location someone who's oscillating between anxiety and dissociation could wind up at, so problem solved I suppose.

Hello @Anon4 

I am not sure which helplines you use where you are treated so disrespectfully about open up. You ring the helpline to be able to express your suffering.

You wrote   

Even people in mental health distress don't need The Script when they dare verbalise any type of distress, or scripted and therefore false empathy.

This is stigmatising. 

There is a stigma watch section of sane on the website page.

You can if you feel up to it report your experience so that the organisation follows it up.

I  believe you can do this anonymously or believe that you should have the right to do this anonymously.

Your experience leading you to go to the ER is exactly what should not be happening in this day and age.

That is abominable.

I implore you to write an email to Sane if you are up to it. Speak to them.

Use the energy that surged you to go to the ER.

What strength and conviction that took. You were not going to be ignored. You were going to be heard and acknowledged.

So powerful your actions.

So wrong that you should have to do this.

I want for you some support in advising you about all helplines as you mentioned "eligible".

@Former-Member 

Can a community manager please follow up with this member and ask the question does she want help please.

Can we at least do that ask "are you okay?' "What can I do to help you?"

Sophia

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[Last-Lament]

@Sophia1 

Thank you for your kindness. I cannot respond properly right now, however, I wanted to let you know I have read your response, and offer, and thank you for it. 

I will make a thread, so as not to take over completely from @Anon4 's OP, and we can maybe continue there?

[Sophia1]

@Last-Lament 

Certainly can.

Well thought out also.

Moving into another direction, so as to allow @Anon4 her own space and show her the respect that she deserves.

I shall look forward to your tag.

Thank you for taking my words as they were meant also.

It is not easy to open up.

It is also not easy to know how to respond for fear of further hurting a real person as we all write in this virtual world.

So thank you so much for respecting me also.

Sophia

[Daisydreamer]

Hi @Anon4,

I can see so much care and support from the community It sounds like you have had such a difficult experience when reaching out for help, and I am sorry to hear this wasn't the response you needed at the time. I hope you feel that here you are among peers who can understand be a listening ear. 

Just following on from the support here, we wanted to check in and see how you are doing today? @Sophia1 mentioned some advocacy options available that you could take should you want to. What are your thoughts on these?

We are sitting with you and sending our thoughts your way today. Hoping that you have support around you 💙

[Former-Member]

@Last-Lament  Thank you, you too are a wonderful person.

just to let you know that you can booked a time for a chat, you don't need to wait in line my friend take care 🤗🌸

[Sophia1]

Hello @Former-Member 

Reading back, my lengthy responses might have confused people.

This was a reply from @Last-Lament 

IN RESPONSE TO: RE: LOUSY SYSTEMS.

Last-Lament

Senior Contributor

7 hours ago

Re: Lousy systems.

@Sophia1 

Thank you for your kindness. I cannot respond properly right now, however, I wanted to let you know I have read your response, and offer, and thank you for it. 

I will make a thread, so as not to take over completely from @Anon4 's OP, and we can maybe continue there?

[Sophia1]

@Sophia1 

Thank you for your kindness. I cannot respond properly right now, however, I wanted to let you know I have read your response, and offer, and thank you for it. 

I will make a thread, so as not to take over completely from @Anon4 's OP, and we can maybe continue there?

[Anon4]

Thanks all. I'm okay. Very detached, but okay.

Helplines are more concerned with making sure they get their risk assessment boxes checked and demonstrating "safe" cookie-cutter "empathy" than actually engaging with humans. Not SANE's. You're okay.

I'm too burned out to take this advocacy on.

Everyone take care. Thanks for support x